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Private

Charles Robert Orr

Service Number 13235
Military Unit 3rd Bn Grenadier Guards
Date of birth Unknown
Date of Death 28 Mar 1915 (29 Years Old)
Place of Birth Waltham on the Wolds Leicestershire
Employment, Education or Hobbies 1901 - horseman on farm. 1911 - farm labourer.
Family History

Charles Robert was the son of William and Sarah Elizabeth Orr (née Green). William Orr was born in Waltham on the Wolds, Leicestershire, in 1862, and Sarah Elizabeth Green in Great Ponton, Leicestershire, in 1863. They were married in 1883 and had nine children seven of whom survived infancy. Eight children have been traced: George William b. 1883, Charles Robert b. 1885, Walter b. 1887 d. 1888, Ernest Francis birth registered 1889 (J/F/M) and Susannah b. 1892 who were all born in Waltham and, with the exception of Susannah, baptised at Waltham parish church, Charles on 6 December 1885. Three children were born in Edwalton, Annie Elizabeth b. 1898, Elsie Mary Lucy birth registered 1902 (J/F/M) and Arthur Herbert b. 1905; they and their sister Susannah were baptised at Edwalton Holy Rood. Wiliam, a shepherd, and Elizabeth had moved from Waltham to Edwalton by 1901. In the home on the night of the census were four of their five surviving children, Charles (16), a horseman on a farm, Ernest, Susannah and Annie. The eldest son, George, was living at Edwalton Lodge, Edwalton, where he was groom to Arthur Brewill, an architect who also held the rank of major in the Robin Hood Rifles and was the unit's adjutant. Charles, now a farm labourer, was still living with his father, a farm labourer, and mother in Edwalton in 1911 along with four of his siblings, Ernest a farm horseman, Annie, Elsie and Arthur. Charles married Elizabeth Astill (b. 1881) in 1913 (reg. Bingham, Nottinghamshire). Elizabeth had two children, George Edward Astill b. 1905 (mother's maiden name Astill) and Eveline Jane b. 1911, whose births were registered in Bingham. The WW1 Pension Record included the two children as Charles' dependants. In 1939 when the England & Wales Register was compiled, George, a farmworker, was living in Plumtree, Nottinghamshire, with his married sister, Eveline Severn (m. 1932, Robert Severn). Their mother has not been traced after Charles' death. Charles' parents were living at North End College, Tollerton, Nottinghamshire, in 1939; William was still working as a farm labourer. Also in the home was their grandson, Edgar Orr (b. 1916), who may have been their daughter Susannah's son. Elizabeth died in 1944 and William in 1947.

Military History

3rd Battalion Grenadier Guards. The 3rd Battalion was at Wellington Barracks (London) at the outbreak of war in August 1914. It served in France from 27 July 1915. Charles died of disease in hospital in the 1st London General Hospital, Camberwell, on 28 March 1915 (death registered Lambeth London). He was buried in Edwalton (Holy Rood) churchyard at the east of the church near east hedge. Although not commemorated on the parish war memorial his name was included in a roll of honour in the church.

Extra Information

Nottingham Evening Post, 3 April 1915: ‘Mr and Mrs Orr and Family (-) thank all kind friends for their sympathy in their sad bereavement in the loss of their son Private Charles Orr, Grenadier Guards.’ (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk) Nottingham Evening Post, 13 April 1915, photograph with caption: 'Pte C Orr, 3rd Grenadier Guards, late of Edwalton. Died March 28 in hospital at Camberwell, London.’ Registers of Soldiers' Effects: his widow Elizabeth was his legatee. WW1 Pension Ledgers Index Cards: named his widow Elizabeth Orr (b. 1881) and two children George Edward Astell (sic) b. 1905 and Eveline Jane Astell (sic) b. 1911.

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