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Telegraphist

John George Hill Roberts

Service Number J/40804
Military Unit HMS Grafton Royal Navy
Date of birth 11 Feb 1898
Date of Death 19 Jan 1918 (19 Years Old)
Place of Birth Graythaite, Ulverstone, Lancashire
Employment, Education or Hobbies Attended school in Prestatyn then on moving to Nottinghamshire went to the Brunts School, Mansfield. Apprentice carpenter the occupation given as carpenter when he joined the RN in 1915.
Family History

John George Hill (known as George) was the son of John William and Sarah Grace Roberts (née Skepper). His father John William was born in Barlings, Lincolnshire, in 1870, the son of Thomas Hill Roberts, a woodcutter, and his wife Sarah Matilda (née Land m. 1862). In 1891 the family was living in Stainton by Langworth; John, like his father, was a woodcutter. His mother Sarah Grace was born in Fiskerton, Lincolnshire, in 1877 (reg. Grace Sarah), the daughter of Joshua Thomas and Mary Ann Skepper. John William and Sarah Grace were married at Lowick parish church in June 1895 and had five children, two of whom died in infancy or childhood. Their surviving children were Grace May b. Thrapston, Northamptonshire 1896, John George Hill b. Graythaite, Ulverstone, Lancashire b. 11 February 1898 and Kathleen Mary b. Mostyn, Holywell, Flintshire (Wales) 1904 bap. Pentreffynnon. A second son, Roderick Albert, was born in Holywell in 1902, bap. Pentreffynnon 1902, and died in 1905 (reg. Holywell). The second child who did not survive childhood was probably a daughter, Edith, who was born in Holywell in 1900 and died the same year. John and Sarah were living in Northamptonshire in 1896 but had moved to Ulverstone, Lancashire by the time of John George's birth two years later. It is likely that the couple had moved to Flintshire by 1900, where their three youngest children were born, and lived at Pentre‐ffyddion, Whitfield, Holywell. John snr., a forester (foreman) was still living in Pentre at the time of the 1901 Census. However, his wife and their three surviving children, Grace, John and Kathleen, were living with his parents, Thomas and Sarah Roberts, at Woodside, Stainton by Langworth. As John and Sarah later settled in Edwinstowe, Nottinghamshire, it is likely that she and their children were living with John's parents as a temporary arrangement while John completed his time with his employer in Wales before taking up a position on the Welbeck estate. The family was recorded on the 1911 Census at Clipstone Archway, Edwinstowe, Newark; John snr. was a forester/woodsman (foreman). Records show that John George was educated at Prestatyn and Mansfield then on leaving school became an apprentice carpenter, possibly on the Welbeck estate. John's parents together with his sister Kathleen were still living at The Archway, Edwinstowe, in 1921. The eldest daughter, Grace, was living in Sutton cum Lound, East Retford, in the household of William and Florence Woods and their son Alfred (b. 1902) whom Grace married at Sutton cum Lound parish church in 1923. John and Sarah were recorded at The Archway, Edwinstowe, in 1939 when the England & Wales Register was compiled; John snr. was still working as a forester (foreman). Also in the household was their married daughter Grace Mary Woods and her two children Roderic (b. 1926) and Grace (b. 1928). John William has not yet been traced after 1939 but his wife Sarah Grace had moved to Horncastle, Lincolnshire, by the time of her death in 1965 (probate awarded to her married daughter, Grace Woods, d. Hucknall, Nottingham, 1989). Kathleen Mary has not yet been traced after 1921 but may have returned to Wales.

Military History

Royal Navy: submarine H.10. H.10 was laid down in February 1915, launched in the April and completed two months later on 29 June 1915. She had a complement of 22. (For specification see: rnsubs.co.uk/boats/subs/h-class/h10). In command from 5 March 1917, Lieutenant Martin Huntley Collier Royal Navy (seniority 30 December 1913), who had previously had command of submarine C.13 (20 August 1916-4 March 1917). John George joined the Royal Navy as a Boy 2nd Class on 16 May 1915 aged 17 and joined on a 12 year continuous service engagement on 11 February 1916, his eighteenth birthday. He served in the following ships and shore establishments: HMS Ganges, 16 May 1916-20 August (Boy 2nd Class); HMS Impregnable, 21 August 1915-26 October 1915; HMS Ganges, 27 October 1915-19 April 1916 (Telegraphist 11 November 1915, Ordinary Telegraphist February 1916); HMS Maidstone, 20 April 1916-12 July 1916; HMS Alecto (H.10), 13 July 1916-19 January 1918 (Telegraphist 4 June 1917). HMS Alecto was a submarine depot ship, commissioned in 1912 and based at Yarmouth throughout the war (8th Submarine Flotilla, August 1916). H.10 sailed from Harwich on 6 January 1918 to cruise to N.W. of Vlieland in the North Sea (between 53 50' N-54 00' N and 03 45'E-04 00'E) and was expected to return about noon eight days later (14 January). She failed to return and was presumed lost at sea; the actual date being unknown it was taken as the`paying-off' date, 19 January 1918. There were no survivors and no bodies were recovered for burial. The 26 casualties are commemorated on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial. John George Hill Roberts' name is on the 29th Panel.

Extra Information

CWGC Additional information: 'Son of John W. and Sarah Grace Roberts, of Clipstone Archway, Edwinstowe, Newark.' Mansfield Reporter, ‘Deaths,’ 25 January 1918: ‘Roberts. John (George) Roberts, Telegraphist RN, aged 19, the loving and only son of Mr & Mrs Roberts, Clipstone Archway, Edwinstowe, Newark. Lost his life while on duty in one of HM Ship of War Service.’ (www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk)

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