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John Harvey

Service number K/15735
Military unit HMS Queen Mary Royal Navy
Address Unknown
Date of birth 18 Apr 1894
Date of death 31 May 1916 (22 years old)
Place of birth Unknown
Employment, education or hobbies

1911 - coal miner
John joined the Royal Navy on 8 August 1912.

Family history

John was the son of Walter and Betsy Harvey (née Wardle)

His father Walter was born in 1865 At Earlson, Suffolk, the son of John and Sarah Harveya nd baptised in the parish church on 17 August the same year. Walter, his younger brother Joseph, both coal miners, and his widowed father John, a farm labourer, had moved to Nottinghamshire by 1881 and were living in Half Moon Yard, Bulwell.

His mother Betsy was born Bulwell in 1868 and had a son, George Wardle, in 1887. George was baptised on 31 August 1887 at Bulwell St Mary the Virgin & All Souls; the baptismal register recorded that he was Betsy's illegitimate child. His surname was given as 'Harvey' on the 1891 Census and as 'Wardle' on the two subsequent census, but he is described on the CWGC record as the 'son of Walter and Betsy Harvey'.

Betsy married Walter Harvey in 1888 (reg. AMJ Basford). According to the information provided on the 1911 Census, Walter and Betsy had had eight children, three of whom had died in infancy or early childhood.

Five children who were born in marriage were recorded on the census between 1891 and 1911. They were born between 1889 and 1904 and with the exception of one child, Bruce, were baptised at Bulwell St Mary: Kate b. 1889 bap. 27 November 1889; John b. 1894 bap. 28 August 1894; William birth registered 1897 (JFM) bap. 17 February 1897 died 1901 (JAS); Albert b. Dec 1898 (reg. 1899 JFM) bap. 3 May 1899 and Bruce Wallace birth reg. 1904 (JFM). As one of the five, William, had died by 1911, it is likely that Walter and Betsy had included George as one of their five surviving children.

Walter, a coal miner, Betsy and George (3) and Kate (1) were living at 3 Dora Terrace, Latimer Street, Bulwell, in 1891. Also in the household was a lodger, Agnes Huntsworth, an ironer.

The address given on Albert's baptismal register in May 1899 was 70 Albert Street, but by the time of the 1901 Census the family was again living at 3 Dora Terrace: Walter, a coal miner hewer, Betsy and the five children George, also a coal miner hewer, Kate, John, William and Albert. William died later that year, aged four, and Bruce was born three years later.

In 1911 Betsy completed the Census as head of household, giving her status as 'widow'. She was living at 37 Newmarket Road, Bulwell, with her five children, George and John, who were both coal miners, Kate, a steel box maker, and Albert and Bruce who were school age. Also in the household was Eliza Wardle (79) a widow whose relationship to the head of household was described as 'grandmother' but may have been Betsy's mother.

However, Betsy's husband, Walter was a prisoner in HMP Bagthorpe, Nottingham, in 1911: 'Walter Harvey, age 45 (abt 1866) born Earlsom Suffolk, married'.

George Wardle, married Eliza Winnard Winfield (b. July 1890) later that year 1911. They had four children, the eldest of whom died in infancy: John b. 1912 d. 1912, Frederick Gordon b. 21 March 1913, George Granville Verdun b. May 1916, and Georgina Elaine b. December 1917. They lived at 70 Deptford Street, Highbury Vale, Bulwell. George was killed in action in May 1917 and the war pension record of that year gives his widow's address as 6 Deptford Street.

Walter Harvey died in 1912 (JFM) and was buried on 6 March. His widow Betsy married Arthur Adams, a widower, of 23 Key Street, Bulwell, at Bulwell St Mary on 18 December 1915.
Arthur, a builders' general labourer, and Betsy were living at 23 Key Street in 1921. Also in the home were Arthur's daughter Florence, an out of work lace dresser, and two of Betsy's sons, Albert, an out of work general labourer, and Bruce, a hosiery trimmer.

Betsy Adams died in 1933 aged 66.

Kate married John William Harrison, a carter, at Bulwell St Mary on 31 July 1915. They had a son, John William, in May the following year, and then George (b. 1917), Harry (b. 1919) and Doris (b. 1921). John William attested in January 1916 but was discharged from the Army the following year. In 1939 when the England & Wales Register was compiled, John, a pig farmer, Kate and their four children were living at 126 Hempshill Lane, Bulwell. Kate died in 1983.

Albert married Millie Hoole in 1923 and in 1939 he and his wife and their children, Walter (b. 1924), Frank (b. 1928), Betsy (b. 1930), Albert (b. 1933) and Frederick (b. 1938) were living on Archdale Road, Arnold. Albert died in 1955 aged 56.

Bruce Wallace married Iris R Carrington (b. 1906) in 1925 and had two sons, Stanley (b. 1926) and Jack (b. 1931). Bruce died on 11 June 1933 aged 33 and was buried in the Northern Cemetery, Bulwell. His widow married Percy E Shipley in 1937 (OND), and they had a son, Percy E. in 1938 (JAS). In 1939 Percy, a miner hewer, Iris and her son Stanley, were living on Keys Street, Bulwell; the records of two other members of the household, probably Jack and Stanley, remain closed. Iris Shipley died aged 36 in 1942 (OND Basford).

Military history

John Harvey joined the Royal Navy on 8 August 1912 on a 12 year Continuous Service Engagement.

He served in the following ships and shore establishments: Victory II, 8 August 1912-31 August 1912 (Stoker II); HMS Renown, 1 September 1912-18 December 1912; Victory II, 19 December 1912-5 April 1913; Vindictive, 6 April 1913-21 April 1913; HMS Minerva II, 22 April 1913-18 July 1912; Victory II, 19 June 1913-9 July 1913; HMS Bristol, 10 July 1913-3 September 1913 (Stoker I, 14 August 1913); HMS Queen Mary 5 September 1913-26 February 1914. 3 days cells. HMS Queen Mary, 2 March 1914-31 May 1916. DD [Discharged Dead] NP 3925/1916. Record annotated: ‘DD 31st May, 1916. Killed in Action.’

His last ship, HMS Queen Mary, named for King George V's consort, was sunk at the Battle of Jutland on 31 May 1916 with the loss of almost her entire ship's company of over 1200; 18 survivors were rescued by the destroyers HMS Laurel, HMS Petard and HMS Tipperary, and two by ships of the German fleet.

John's body was not recovered for burial and he is commemorated on the Portsmouth Naval Memorial.

HMS Queen Mary was the last battle cruiser built by the Royal Navy before World War I and was in the 1914 Battle of Heligoland Bight. At Jutland, HMS Queen Mary (Captain CI Prowse RN) was in the First Battle Cruiser Squadron of the Battle Cruiser Fleet (Vice-Admiral Sir David Beatty). HMS Queen Mary came under the concentrated fire of Seydlitz and Derfflinger; her 'A' and 'B' Turrets were hit, their respective magazines were detonated and she blew up 38 minutes into the Battle. Her wreck was discovered in 1991 on the bed of the North Sea; HMS Queen Mary is designated as a protected place under the Protection of Military Remains Act 1986 as a war grave. (Imperial War Museum website and other sources).

Extra information

John's brother, George Wardle (also Harvey), served in the 2nd Battalion Sherwood Foresters (16750 Private), and was killed on 28 May 1917 age 30. He is buried in Philosophe British Cemetery Mazingarbe. (See record on this Roll of Honour - Wardle).

Their brother Albert Harvey attested on 3 January 1917. Home address 23 Keys Street, Bulwell, next of kin mother of the same address, occupation carter. Sections of his Army service record are illegible, but it appears that he was posted initially to the Durham Light Infantry, had transferred to the Labour Corps by April 1917 but by 1918 was serving with the RAMC. There were probably at least two periods of overseas service, including North Russia with the 154th Field Ambulance (RAMC) from November 1918 (Murmansk). Albert was evacuated from Russia 'on or about 21 August 1919' and discharged from the Army in December the same year.

Their sister Kate's husband, John William Harrison, attested on 29 January 1916, transferred to the Army Reserve the following day and mobilised on 31 October the same year. He was posted to the Royal Horse Artillery (Driver) but was discharged, 'physically unfit', on 6 January the following year.

CWGC Additional information: Son of Betsy Harvey, of 23, Keys St., Commercial Rd., Bulwell, Notts, and the late Walter Harvey.

Nottinghamshire Weekly Express, 9 June 1916. ‘Nottingham Men On The Ships Engaged. Special List Obtained by the ‘Nottm Express. The Nottingham men wose names ae given below were serving onboad the vessels named at Christmas, when they received a parcel despatched by the local Comfort for the Troops Fund. It does not necessarily follow that they were present in the action, some having perhaps transferred to other vessels or being on leave. The men belong to Nottingham city except where stated:- The Queen Mary. Ldg.-Stkr JW Mason, Netherfield. Leading Stoker John Wing. 2nd Class Stkr T Bright. Boy 339 WL Marriott, Netherfield. 16170 Stoker Jim Green. 6070 Ldg. Stkr Ralph Potts. AB Frank Bright Bulwell, transferred to HMS Excellent. 1573 Stoker John Harvey, Bulwell. Boy Telegraphist William W Wibdy, Bulwell. Ldg-Str Albert Templeman. 6052 AB EG Hatton. Mess No. 24 James Tongue. Stoker Wm Alf Fowler. Stoker Geo Wm. Broughton, Hyson Green. Sidney Selt, New Basford.’ Other Ships: Indefatigable, Invincible, Defence, Black Prince, Warrior and Ardent.

Additional research/record updated and linked to George Wardle. RF (March 2026)

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